Nikolaos Giannoukakis
Παλαιό Μέλος
Dear Mr. Nassis,
I tried very hard to understand your very confused response (above).
1) You entered the forum defending the Karas method did you not?
2) Since you chose to defend the Karas method, you MUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS POSED TO YOU.
(These here remain unanswered: http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost.php?p=80683&postcount=5)
3) You have NOT answered those and these other questions
(This is probably the FIFTH REMINDER):
(see here: http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...22&postcount=3
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...83&postcount=5
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...87&postcount=7
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...3&postcount=43
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...2&postcount=37)
4) Instead, you go off on tangents, initiate non-scientific discussion, all with the objective of AVOIDING to answer the questions that you MUST ANSWER TO DEFEND KARAS
5) Then, after making enough noise to auto-designate yourself as Chicago's representation of Angelopoulos and Karas, you shift gears tonight and call yourself "Representing myself".
Mr. Nassis, if you are defending Karas, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS! You sought academic discussion did you not?
Then, WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING IT????
If you are representing yourself and propose YET ANOTHER NEW THEORY, please write it up, send it out to every conservatory in the world of Eastern Orthodox Christinity (Greece, Balkans, former Soviet republics, Middle East, Africa), send it to the appropriate ecclesiastic authorities and let it be evaluated by the CONSENSUS.
If your theory has merits, we will seriously consider it and you may one day be bestowed the title of MEGAS EFEYRETHS (Grand Innovator).
If this is not your intent, but your intend is to defend Karas, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS:
(this is a SIXTH REMINDER, in case you forgot from immediately above):
(see here: http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...22&postcount=3
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...83&postcount=5
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...87&postcount=7
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...3&postcount=43
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...2&postcount=37)
And if you don't have the time to answer all, then at least here is an easy one for you:
Post the fractions that corresponds to these intervals published in Karas' two-tome theory:
(see here:http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...9&postcount=78)
Once you complete this simple task, we'll raise the bar to try and better understand the Karas method.....
N.B.
In a post a couple of minutes ago, you make the following comment:
"But we must recognize untraditional practices regardless of anyone's vocal virtuosity. Tradition is more important than vocal beauty and talent.."
Mr. Nassis, you evidently don't agree with the rationally-accepted definition of the word tradition
(http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost.php?p=82240&postcount=37).
Clearly you have another idea and definition for the meaning of the word.
So that we can all use the same denominator, can you please DEFINE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD TRADITION?
We'll pick up the discussion after you provide the fractions for the intervals above
(and here): http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...9&postcount=78
and your definition of the word tradition.....
N.B.2:
Last, you state that "the Greek Byzantine Choir does not have any "organized PR". I can say this categorically because I know from first hand knowledge."
So, from your "first hand knowledge" Mr. Nassis, can you please enlighten the forum about the corporation HARMONIA MUNDI (http://www.harmoniamundi.com). What is Harmonia Mundi, Mr. Nassis? Has the Greek Byzantine Choir and Mr. Angelopoulos ever been published AND PROMOTED BY THIS CORPORATION worldwide? Please be VERY careful in your reply because it is vital to your credibility as a "first hand knowledge" source of ELBYX's promoter(s) worldwide.
You have THREE TASKS MR. NASSIS:
1) Answer the academic questions first
2) define the word tradition as you believe it
3) answer the question about Harmonia Mundi
IN THAT ORDER and DO NOT AVOID THE QUESTIONS.
NG
I tried very hard to understand your very confused response (above).
1) You entered the forum defending the Karas method did you not?
2) Since you chose to defend the Karas method, you MUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS POSED TO YOU.
(These here remain unanswered: http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost.php?p=80683&postcount=5)
3) You have NOT answered those and these other questions
(This is probably the FIFTH REMINDER):
(see here: http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...22&postcount=3
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...83&postcount=5
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...87&postcount=7
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...3&postcount=43
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...2&postcount=37)
4) Instead, you go off on tangents, initiate non-scientific discussion, all with the objective of AVOIDING to answer the questions that you MUST ANSWER TO DEFEND KARAS
5) Then, after making enough noise to auto-designate yourself as Chicago's representation of Angelopoulos and Karas, you shift gears tonight and call yourself "Representing myself".
Mr. Nassis, if you are defending Karas, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS! You sought academic discussion did you not?
Then, WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING IT????
If you are representing yourself and propose YET ANOTHER NEW THEORY, please write it up, send it out to every conservatory in the world of Eastern Orthodox Christinity (Greece, Balkans, former Soviet republics, Middle East, Africa), send it to the appropriate ecclesiastic authorities and let it be evaluated by the CONSENSUS.
If your theory has merits, we will seriously consider it and you may one day be bestowed the title of MEGAS EFEYRETHS (Grand Innovator).
If this is not your intent, but your intend is to defend Karas, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS:
(this is a SIXTH REMINDER, in case you forgot from immediately above):
(see here: http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...22&postcount=3
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...83&postcount=5
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...87&postcount=7
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...3&postcount=43
AND here:
http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...2&postcount=37)
And if you don't have the time to answer all, then at least here is an easy one for you:
Post the fractions that corresponds to these intervals published in Karas' two-tome theory:
(see here:http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...9&postcount=78)
Once you complete this simple task, we'll raise the bar to try and better understand the Karas method.....
N.B.
In a post a couple of minutes ago, you make the following comment:
"But we must recognize untraditional practices regardless of anyone's vocal virtuosity. Tradition is more important than vocal beauty and talent.."
Mr. Nassis, you evidently don't agree with the rationally-accepted definition of the word tradition
(http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost.php?p=82240&postcount=37).
Clearly you have another idea and definition for the meaning of the word.
So that we can all use the same denominator, can you please DEFINE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD TRADITION?
We'll pick up the discussion after you provide the fractions for the intervals above
(and here): http://www.psaltologion.com/showpost...9&postcount=78
and your definition of the word tradition.....
N.B.2:
Last, you state that "the Greek Byzantine Choir does not have any "organized PR". I can say this categorically because I know from first hand knowledge."
So, from your "first hand knowledge" Mr. Nassis, can you please enlighten the forum about the corporation HARMONIA MUNDI (http://www.harmoniamundi.com). What is Harmonia Mundi, Mr. Nassis? Has the Greek Byzantine Choir and Mr. Angelopoulos ever been published AND PROMOTED BY THIS CORPORATION worldwide? Please be VERY careful in your reply because it is vital to your credibility as a "first hand knowledge" source of ELBYX's promoter(s) worldwide.
You have THREE TASKS MR. NASSIS:
1) Answer the academic questions first
2) define the word tradition as you believe it
3) answer the question about Harmonia Mundi
IN THAT ORDER and DO NOT AVOID THE QUESTIONS.
NG