Axion Estin by Karamanes in second plagal mode

[ByzantineVoice]

Hi! Does anyone have the byzantine music sheet of this hymn Axion Estin. I am not sure what mode it is, and would like to know.

 

[Theofanis_Kokkino]

Here. I hope this helps!

 

[neoklis]

Here. I hope this helps!

Completely different score.

 

[ByzantineVoice]

Here. I hope this helps!

What is the base note. It's incomplete, too.

 

[ByzantineVoice]

Completely different score.

Do you have the score? and what is mode of this hymn?

 

[neoklis]

Do you have the score? and what is mode of this hymn?

I can't say since I don't recognize it. It is definitely in a mixed mode with chromatic passages. It's worth finding out the score.

 

[ByzantineVoice]

I can't say since I don't recognize it. It is definitely in a mixed mode with chromatic passages. It's worth finding out the score.

I tried to find a Greek title to it, but I couldn't. I meant to find a Greek video on YouTube that has a similar hymn. That would give more insights, I think. Yes, it sounds like a mix of scales.

 

[emakris]

It is based on the famous Axion esti by Karamanis in second plagal mode. The lowest note (and also basis tone) is Pa, sung in a low position in order to avoid high notes.

 

[ByzantineVoice]

It is based on the famous Axion esti by Karamanis in second plagal mode. The lowest note (and also basis tone) is Pa, sung in a low position in order to avoid high notes.

Thanks. Do you have the score or the hymn on YouTube with a title in Greek?

 

[Ανδρέας Καλογιάννης]

The text in Arabic below the video reads:
"Axion esti recited by the voice of the Holy Father Archimandrite Pandleimon Farah, the head of the monastery of Hamtur
From the Church of St. Georgius - Ajloun" (northern Jordan)

 

[ByzantineVoice]

The text in Arabic below the video reads:
"Axion esti recited by the voice of the Holy Father Archimandrite Pandleimon Farah, the head of the monastery of Hamtur
From the Church of St. Georgius - Ajloun" (northern Jordan)

Thanks, but I know Arabic . I need the details of the hymn (i.e., the specific mode or the closest mode and the score if possible) in Greek.

 

[neoklis]

It is based on the famous Axion esti by Karamanis in second plagal mode. The lowest note (and also basis tone) is Pa, sung in a low position in order to avoid high notes.

Still the only part that comes close is the following "Την τιμιωτέραν των Χερουβίμ και ενδοξοτέραν ασυγκρίτως των Σεραφείμ"

 

[domesticus]

Maybe there is something in Αγγελικός Χορος by Simonopetra.

I think - I 'm not an expert of course- it follows the Hicazkar makam.

P.S. Listen also the Doxologia by Kosmas, Bishop of Madytos. Chanting the late athonite monk Dionysios Firfiris.

 

[ByzantineVoice]

Maybe he is improvising?

 

[ByzantineVoice]

Still the only part that comes close is the following "Την τιμιωτέραν των Χερουβίμ και ενδοξοτέραν ασυγκρίτως των Σεραφείμ"

Do you have the full score?

 

[ByzantineVoice]

Maybe there is something in Αγγελικός Χορος by Simonopetra.

I think - I 'm not an expert of course- it follows the Hicazkar makam.

P.S. Listen also the Doxologia by Kosmas, Bishop of Madytos. Chanting the late athonite monk Dionysios Firfiris.

It is close.

 

[Ανδρέας Καλογιάννης]

According to my humble opinion it's in maqam Sedaraban that quite suits base and range.

A rough translation of attached pages 197-198 from "Musical modes in Eastern Medeterranean" 1999 by Marios Mavroides

Maqam Sedaraban
A downward movement characterizes this maqam. It's scale consists of a sequence of chromatic subunits, common in Arabs and Turks. The differeces appear in the 'reading' of the whole scheme.

Ascending scale
The Arabs "read" the sequence:
Hijaz 4chord from Yeghah (low Δι) / Nikriz 5chord from Rast (Νη) and again / Hijaz 4chord from Neva (δι) / Nikriz 5chord from Gerdaniye (high νη).
Nikriz is a special feature of this maqam according to the Arab "reading" (see 1)

Descending scale:
Here most chromatic subunits become diatonic (see 2)

Byzantine music equivalent:
Actualy Sedaraban is a transposed scale of another maqam as the "sed" prefix declares. Thus there is no direct match in Byzantine music. It could be regarded as Echos plagal second transposed down to low Δι. Like "plagal" of plagal second if the latter had theoretical substance according to Byzantine Octoechos.

AK

 

[Ανδρέας Καλογιάννης]

An attempt to write it down. Let more experienced collegues make corrections if needed.
It comes in a musical PDF file with the soundtrack incorporated.

• In order to listen to it please click on the photograph of fr. Pandeleimon and permit execution from your PDF reader program.

AK

 

[ByzantineVoice]

An attempt to write it down. Let more experienced collegues make corrections if needed.
It comes in a musical PDF file with the soundtrack incorporated.

• In order to listen to it please click on the photograph of fr. Pandeleimon and permit execution from your PDF reader program.

AK

Thanks. So, according to the score, it's hard chromatic scale, and we start from di, three notes up from pi.

 

[ByzantineVoice]

This is the closest I could find on YouTube.