Hagiopolites Choir directed by Ioannis Arvanitis in Sicily

Nikolaos Giannoukakis

Παλαιό Μέλος
Look at the reference list Mr. Gugushvili and read those books.

You're misreading the context. The reference to "Albanian" refers to a geography and not an ethnosocial and cultural conditioning.

Arvanites are not Albanians ethnosocially/culturally. Q.E.D. Read the books in the reference list for a complete picture.

NG
 

Shota

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Look at the reference list Mr. Gugushvili and read those books.

You're misreading the context. The reference to "Albanian" refers to a geography and not an ethnosocial and cultural conditioning.

Arvanites are not Albanians ethnosocially/culturally. Q.E.D. Read the books in the reference list for a complete picture.

NG

I prefer to die uneducated.

P.S. I never said modern Arvanites are Albanians.
 

greek487

Tasos N.
A (scientific?) example from LOGIC101. . .


Mr. Nassis,

You stated: "The “Arvanites,” of course, are Greeks whose heritage is Albanian"

I dare you to call an Arvaniti an Albanian. At the very least you will get slapped verbally. At the worst.....


Did I not label the text I copied and pasted as such?

(From Richard Barrett's blog at http://leitourgeia.wordpress.com/201...know-that-guy/)



I am not attributing it to you.


Mr. Giannoukakis, you've made a mountain out of a molehill. . . both of which are completely irrelevant to this thread and to this forum.

If an Arvaniti expressed the "EXTREME OFFENSE" that you speak of, I would respond appropriately. But we've all seen the alarm you cause for threats you alone imagine (http://analogion.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88172&postcount=1 . . .i.e. vocal destruction due to chanting a cherubic hymn in English).

So I'm sorry, but in this debate, I will concur with Shota, as I concur with professional musicians on other topics which you disagree with me.

Taso


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Dimitri

Δημήτρης Κουμπαρούλης, Administrator
Staff member
[Moderator's note] Dear friends, I believe you all agree with me that this thread has been derailed into off-topic matters and I will ask for this exchange to end here. This is not the place to resolve ethnic origin disputes.
 

saltypsalti

Παλαιό Μέλος
[Moderator's note] Dear friends, I believe you all agree with me that this thread has been derailed into off-topic matters and I will ask for this exchange to end here. This is not the place to resolve ethnic origin disputes.

I am a little lost --what WAS the original topc supposed to be?
 

Dimitri

Δημήτρης Κουμπαρούλης, Administrator
Staff member
It was an announcement regarding a Hagiopolites choir performance.
 

greek487

Tasos N.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuJR...layer_embedded



(From Richard Barrett's blog at http://leitourgeia.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/hey-i-know-that-guy/)

In March of 2008, Ioannis Arvanitis directed the Hagiopolites Choir at a conference focusing on Dom Lorenzo Tardo, an Italian musicologist who was evidently interested in the reception and transmission of Byzantine chant in Sicily’s Greco-Albanian colonies. K. Arvanitis also delivered a paper called “Towards a Modern Interpration of Grottaferrata’s Musical Manuscripts” (seems to me I heard somewhere he knew something about those). The concert was in the Cathedral of St. Demetrius.

The location of the conference was a place called Piana degli Albanesi, one of the Greco-Albanian colonies that interested Tardo so much, dating back to the end of the fifteenth century. Like the abbey in Grottaferrata, they are Byzantine Catholics who are Italian by geography and communion but Greek and/or Albanian by culture and liturgy.

The “Arvanites,” of course, are Greeks whose heritage is Albanian; K. Arvanitis’ involvement certainly seems fitting.


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For more information and relevant links visit Richard Barrett's blog at http://leitourgeia.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/hey-i-know-that-guy/




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When I click on the above link to the video, it states "The URL contained a malformed video ID." So here is a fresh link that should work better. . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuJRcBuW-E&feature=related


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