Old byzantine music

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Ioan.

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Hello! I study at the university the history of music and now we study about the byzantine music in the I-VIII centuries. Unfortunately I did't find any byzantine chant from this period so I cannot make any analysis. I have only four recordings but I don't know the century in which were written. Can you help with some examples of how was the byzantine music until the 9th century?
*Sorry for that I did't know in which forum to post this!
 

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Pappous43

Pappous43

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Another very old (4th century A.D. or older) hymn is the "Ο Gladsome Light of the holy glory" sung in Vespers:

See also:
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Φως_Ιλαρόν#Στα_Αγγλικά
and
www.academia.edu

From the Pauline Collection to Phos Hilaron of Cappadocia

Starting from the rare word ιλαρός in 2 Cor 9:7 (hapaxlegomenon in Paul), the article follows the trajectory from the early Christian collection project to the most ancient hymn produced most probably in Cappadocia, the cradle of Christian
www.academia.edu

By the way, your 4 recordings above, are not what we sing in Greece as Byzantine Music.
 
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Ioan.

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Pappous43 said:
Another very old (4th century A.D. or older) hymn is the "Ο Gladsome Light of the holy glory" sung in Vespers:

See also:
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Φως_Ιλαρόν#Στα_Αγγλικά
and
www.academia.edu

From the Pauline Collection to Phos Hilaron of Cappadocia

Starting from the rare word ιλαρός in 2 Cor 9:7 (hapaxlegomenon in Paul), the article follows the trajectory from the early Christian collection project to the most ancient hymn produced most probably in Cappadocia, the cradle of Christian
www.academia.edu

By the way, your 4 recordings above, are not what we sing in Greece as Byzantine Music.
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Thank you very much for the links! Those recordings are the examples that our history of music teachers gave us to hear how was the byzantine music in I-V centuries.
 
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ARGITAN

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Ioan. said:
Γειά σου! Σπουδάζω στο πανεπιστήμιο την ιστορία της μουσικής και τώρα μελετάμε τη βυζαντινή μουσική στους αιώνες I-VIII. Δυστυχώς δεν βρήκα κανένα βυζαντινό άσμα αυτής της περιόδου, οπότε δεν μπορώ να κάνω καμία ανάλυση. Έχω μόνο τέσσερις ηχογραφήσεις αλλά δεν ξέρω τον αιώνα στον οποίο γράφτηκαν. Μπορείτε να βοηθήσετε με μερικά παραδείγματα για το πώς ήταν η βυζαντινή μουσική μέχρι τον 9ο αιώνα;
*Συγγνώμη που δεν ήξερα σε ποιο φόρουμ να το δημοσιεύσω!
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Καλή Χρονιά. Πάρε με στο τηλέφωνο 6937401271
 
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Shota

Shota

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Ioan. said:
Hello! I study at the university the history of music and now we study about the byzantine music in the I-VIII centuries. Unfortunately I did't find any byzantine chant from this period so I cannot make any analysis. I have only four recordings but I don't know the century in which were written. Can you help with some examples of how was the byzantine music until the 9th century?
*Sorry for that I did't know in which forum to post this!
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These are recordings of transcriptions by the Monumenta Musicae Byzantinae founding fathers done from manuscripts not earlier than 12th c., here probably sung by Solesmes Abbey monks. Hymn texts are obviously older. E.g., your first recording is an excerpt from St. John Damascene’s Easter canon.

There is scientific debate on transcription and performance of the early Byzantine chant. But the same holds true for its Western counterparts. I would guess your aim is to compare these two tradition. You can start with Wellesz, Eastern Elements in Western Chant. That will keep your professors happy too.

 
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Ioan.

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Shota said:
These are recordings of transcriptions by the Monumenta Musicae Byzantinae founding fathers done from manuscripts not earlier than 12th c., here probably sung by Solesmes Abbey monks. Hymn texts are obviously older. E.g., your first recording is an excerpt from St. John Damascene’s Easter canon.

There is scientific debate on transcription and performance of the early Byzantine chant. But the same holds true for its Western counterparts. I would guess your aim is to compare these two tradition. You can start with Wellesz, Eastern Elements in Western Chant. That will keep your professors happy too.

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Thank you for the book! Very useful. My aim was to know how was the religious music in the first centuries, I mean before the fall of Roman Empire.
 
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