Details of Polyeleoi, Eklogaria, and Triadikon

akarimso

akarimso

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My understanding of chanting the polyeleoi in Orthros is as follows:

1. Psalm 134 (O ye servants)
2. Psalm 135 (O give thanks unto the Lord)
3. Eklogarion (Selected psalmic verses for the feast)

When is Glory...both now... chanted? After the eklogarion (eklogaria?)? After the eklogarion and after Psalm 134? Only after Psalm 134? If an eklogarion is not chanted, after Psalm 135? Is it always called a Triadikon? Is the composition/text specific to the eklogarion/Psalm composition chanted, or is it up to the discretion of the chanter?

Also, on Sundays, how do the Evlogitaria fit in?
 
My recollection is that on Mt. Athos its chanting is deferred until after the Ekloge. The Polyeleos of the Theotokos feasts does not have a Triadikon, but two Theotokia. In some instances the long Triadika are omitted for brevity and instead the troparia at Glory/Both Now of the Mode 1 Resurrectional Makarismoi are chanted. Some polyeleoi also provide the concluding Alleluia as a brief alternative.
 
I think I understand now. All polyeleoi (except for Psalm 135?) have their own, usually very long Glory/both now. However, as you said, they are sometimes omitted or replaced by "Let us worship the Father" and "Thy Mother do thy people bring".

I've never seen music for an Ekloge. Do they also have their own Glory/both now?
 
Ekloge don't have their own doxastika, except Λόγον αγαθόν (but this one is also a special case in another sense too, because it has refrains intercalated). Usually they are chanted in the Nenano mode to a brief melody transmitted orally.


Petros Ephesios has written elaborate settings of all the Ekloge in various modes, but these are not used in the current practice.

 
Fokaeus has a slow setting of Εξομολογείσθε τω Κυρίω, which has its own doxastika.

 
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