1) I may be able to automatically search my collection of some thousands of score notes, for this syllable. But first I have to make some changes to be able to do this search.Hello!
I often see such a cadence with an extra syllable in Slavic books. It occurs in different modes. Is she correct? Is it found in Greek books?
Regarding accents, indeed, in such cadences, especially if the syllable is stretched into 4 beats, accents in the Slavic text can be almost arbitrary. But, the extra syllable here is not related to the Bulgarian pronunciation, it will sound the same in Russian. It seems to me that the author simply did not find a suitable cadence for the syllable pattern 1000, he often writes that way in this case. I want to rewrite it like this:In the word свѧ́тостїю, the composer had to deal with the peculiarity of the Church Slavonic Language which can put the accent (stress) on any syllable of the word, unlike Greek. Now, there are many ways to read and pronounce Church Slavonic, as there are Slav speaking Churches. Serbians do not bother too much about the stress; hence one hears at the memorial service "I ninjé i prísno i vo vjéki vjékov, ámin": the melodic formulae of Serbian tone 5 take precedence and the text is accentuated in such a way as to match them. Bulgarians "learnt" Church Slavonic in the 19th century from Russians (as hitherto services were almost exclusively in Greek) and have stuck to that pronunciation, with the exception of adding an additional vowel on occasion (e.g. пѣ́снь is pronounced пѣ́сaнь). Stresses are of paramount importance when reading or chanting in Church Slavonic for a Bulgarian.
I also have a search engine, but my collection of score notes is not very large (it is difficult to find books in machine-readable format). I don't find such a cadence in Greek books.1) I may be able to automatically search my collection of some thousands of score notes, for this syllable. But first I have to make some changes to be able to do this search.
2) In the mean time I have tested that cadence with the BZQ program (*). I am very glad to say, the added syllable is melodically/systematically impeccable, perfectly agreeing with average/traditional byzantine music style. It has an AverDiff of Zero!
(*) https://analogion.com/forum/index.p...aditional-byzantine-melody.51759/#post-279701
That's absolutely true. And you cannot easily/quickly search for Byzantine notes! How, in what format?(it is difficult to find books in machine-readable format). I don't find such a cadence in Greek books.
As far as I can see, there should be another phrase before the marked ending (highlighted in gray). I can't find any other options.View attachment 126580
Also an impeccable solution!As far as I can see, there should be another phrase before the marked ending (highlighted in gray). I can't find any other options.View attachment 126580
It's strange for me to hear that. Okay, I'll show you what I have. This is a small search program that I use to compose sheet music. The search can be either by notes or by syllable pattern. This is what working with her looks like.That's absolutely true. And you cannot easily/quickly search for Byzantine notes! How, in what format?
Congratulations! I like the interface!It's strange for me to hear that. Okay, I'll show you what I have. This is a small search program that I use to compose sheet music. The search can be either by notes or by syllable pattern. This is what working with her looks like.
I've seen your program. For 2025, this is a relic, although it may be useful to someone. I understand that Visual Basic 6 has its limitations, and everyone writes what they can. But I have my own set of programs: for typing notes, for checking what is typed for compliance with Greek books, and for searching formulas. Nothing secret, maybe someday I'll publish them, but I'm not ready yet. It's just difficult to deploy them on another computer (and I have Linux).
I didn't see pure DOS, usually there was always Norton Commander or one of his clones, so for me DOS is associated with the blue color.Remember DOS? Black and White? Punched cards?
No, I didn't synthesize vocals. I would look for singing engine. Something from here: https://gist.github.com/0xdevalias/0b64b25d72cbbc784042a9fdff713129By the way, you seem to have done a lot of work and you know very much... Do you happen to know of any other program:
-playing notes with a (prerecorded) human voice (it seems Finale can only sing LaLaLa...)
-clearly pronouncing the syllables ni pa... or do re mi..
-including change for petasti, psifiston etc etc
-portamento?
Your task is easier than singing synthesis. Another option is possible: I have a synthesizer program with a voice processor function, the sources are available via SVN. https://sourceforge.net/projects/byzorgan/By the way, you seem to have done a lot of work and you know very much... Do you happen to know of any other program:
-playing notes with a (prerecorded) human voice (it seems Finale can only sing LaLaLa...)
-clearly pronouncing the syllables ni pa... or do re mi..
-including change for petasti, psifiston etc etc
-portamento?
For quality symbols like Petasti etc, I use my own pragmatic analysis as done by various Greek chanters (psaltes).No, I didn't synthesize vocals. I would look for singing engine. Something from here: https://gist.github.com/0xdevalias/0b64b25d72cbbc784042a9fdff713129