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Σάν μία δεύτερη ἀπάντηση, γιατί ὁ Ἰάκωβος καί ὅσοι ἠχογραφούσαν σέ φωνογράφο ἀκουγόνται ἔτσι στίς ἡχογραφήσεις! Ἀκουγόντουσαν ἀκριβῶς ἔτσι καί στήν πραγματικότητα; Τἠν ἀπάντηση δίνει στήν πράξη ὁ τενόρος Rolando Villazon! Παρακολουθεῖστε ἀπό τό 47:00 ἔως τό 51:00 περίπου.
GKM
To oti to CHONION eiche DESMEYMENIN, alla kai STENIN eurititan katagraphis SYCHNOTITON to gnorizei o KATHE archarios.
Di auto kai ALLAZE oi CHROIA tis phonis.
Akomi kai me MICROPHONA tis epochis tou Stanitsa, alla kai condenser microphones mikron kassetophonon tis epochis tou 1980, egeneto PAROMOIOS.
To idion ginetai kai epi ton hemeron: analogos to microphonon alla kai to palyback mechanima tha akousthoun diaphoretika apotelsmata!
O Iakovos echographise me CHONI alla, eis to TELOS tis zoes tou, echographise kai me MICROPHONON (eide to bibliaraki ton 5 CD).
Ontos, HYPARCHAN microphona tin epochin tou 1930:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microphone)
Outos, to microphonon hydinato, akomi kai tin epochin ekeinin, na KATAGRAPSEI PERISSOTERAS harmonikas.
Loipon, to PROBLEMA KATAGRAPHIS enos MAXIMUM arithmou harmonikon elythike ma to MICROPHONON.
To PROBLEMA EPANAPHORAS (playback) tou MAXIMUM arithmou harmonikon elythike me tin chrysin SOSTIS, PACHEIAS = CHNONDRIS belonas kai soston echeion.
Telos, to problema PROSTHESIS kai tropopoieseos ton harmonikon mas to EPELYSE i SYCHRONOS technologia, oste kai I PROTI echographisis, i opoia ito EIKONIKI kai DEN epetrepe kapoio PLAYBACK (1860) na akougetai PHYSIKOTATI kai me CHYSANTHINA schedon (68ET) diastemata:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znKNQXo58pE)
Outos, o tenoros tis Video DEN mas mathainei kati to ousiodes.
Auto opou symberainomen omos einai oti ta GARIGMATA kai synaisthimatika tis operas DEN echoun choron eis tin ecclesian, kai DEN ginetai na anamychthoun ai METHODOI tis sychronou Dytikis meta tis psaltikis, opos ek palaiothen DEN anemygnionto i PSALTIKI meta tis dimotikis, aschetos ean theoritikos eichan ginei proseggiseis : psaltis DEN etragoudouse se taverna.
Tora, ean oi AMOUSOI Tourkoi euarestounto epi ti akroasei tou Petron o opois isos kai na tous "etragoudouse" opos schedon kai tha"epsalle", dikaioma tous == i Tourkiki mousiki, ekthylikismeni opos einai, eina ena BASTARDEMA psaltikis mas kai dimotikis, OPOS akribos tin ekamne o KARAS.
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Echo akousei ARKETA charismatikes phones, kai echo ekthesei to problema se arketous eidikous, dia na katalixo oti to MONON koinon stoichion anametaxy dytikis kai psaltikis esti i ANAPNOE.
Otan tha akousei echographiseis SOCHOU kai ASTERIOU OPOS to nyn prosaptomenon archeion, TOTE kai monon tha chreiasthei na ereunisomen ean i techniki tous EUSTATHEI dia ton ecclesiastikon choron.
Dysticho, to monon to opoion echo akousei apo "charismatikous dytiko- topothetimenous" eisin BASTARDEMATA, opos akribos ta BEKRYDISTIKA tou Asteri.
TELEUTAION:
Dia SYNKRISIN phonon IDIAS epochis (1930 - 1940):
as synkrinei tis tin PAROUSAN echographisin tou IAKOVOU
meta echographiseos tinos TRION tragoudiston, enos HELLINOS kai DYO Amerikanon, epochis 1930, en Ameriki, 78 rpm (tous opoious diskous ECHO eis Montreal, kai opou eicha kapote ANARTISEI to "ANASTASEOS hemera" eis to Montreal psaltiki kai to opoion SIGOURA tha echei o Koubaroulis eis ta archeia tou, kai to opoion APHIRESA logou hyperfortoseos tou site, kai tin opoian echographisin DEN echo procheiron) = opou, bebaia, me LYRIKI topothetisin, o nathropos legei ALLA ant'alllon (ito kai teliophitos toy Odeiou Athninon)
oste na katalabei kaneis oti i ECHOLHPSIA tou Iakovou den PARAMORPHONEI TOSON tin phonin tou oso tha ithelee na mas to hypogrammisei o Ioannis.
Georgios
Υ.Γ.: αν πειράζουν τα ελληνικά με λατινικούς χαρακτήρες, θα προσπαθήσω να το γράψω με ελληνικούς
Σάν μία δεύτερη ἀπάντηση, γιατί ὁ Ἰάκωβος καί ὅσοι ἠχογραφούσαν σέ φωνογράφο ἀκουγόνται ἔτσι στίς ἡχογραφήσεις! Ἀκουγόντουσαν ἀκριβῶς ἔτσι καί στήν πραγματικότητα; Τἠν ἀπάντηση δίνει στήν πράξη ὁ τενόρος Rolando Villazon! Παρακολουθεῖστε ἀπό τό 47:00 ἔως τό 51:00 περίπου.
GKM
To oti to CHONION eiche DESMEYMENIN, alla kai STENIN eurititan katagraphis SYCHNOTITON to gnorizei o KATHE archarios.
Di auto kai ALLAZE oi CHROIA tis phonis.
Akomi kai me MICROPHONA tis epochis tou Stanitsa, alla kai condenser microphones mikron kassetophonon tis epochis tou 1980, egeneto PAROMOIOS.
To idion ginetai kai epi ton hemeron: analogos to microphonon alla kai to palyback mechanima tha akousthoun diaphoretika apotelsmata!
O Iakovos echographise me CHONI alla, eis to TELOS tis zoes tou, echographise kai me MICROPHONON (eide to bibliaraki ton 5 CD).
Ontos, HYPARCHAN microphona tin epochin tou 1930:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microphone)
Outos, to microphonon hydinato, akomi kai tin epochin ekeinin, na KATAGRAPSEI PERISSOTERAS harmonikas.
Loipon, to PROBLEMA KATAGRAPHIS enos MAXIMUM arithmou harmonikon elythike ma to MICROPHONON.
To PROBLEMA EPANAPHORAS (playback) tou MAXIMUM arithmou harmonikon elythike me tin chrysin SOSTIS, PACHEIAS = CHNONDRIS belonas kai soston echeion.
Telos, to problema PROSTHESIS kai tropopoieseos ton harmonikon mas to EPELYSE i SYCHRONOS technologia, oste kai I PROTI echographisis, i opoia ito EIKONIKI kai DEN epetrepe kapoio PLAYBACK (1860) na akougetai PHYSIKOTATI kai me CHYSANTHINA schedon (68ET) diastemata:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znKNQXo58pE)
Outos, o tenoros tis Video DEN mas mathainei kati to ousiodes.
Auto opou symberainomen omos einai oti ta GARIGMATA kai synaisthimatika tis operas DEN echoun choron eis tin ecclesian, kai DEN ginetai na anamychthoun ai METHODOI tis sychronou Dytikis meta tis psaltikis, opos ek palaiothen DEN anemygnionto i PSALTIKI meta tis dimotikis, aschetos ean theoritikos eichan ginei proseggiseis : psaltis DEN etragoudouse se taverna.
Tora, ean oi AMOUSOI Tourkoi euarestounto epi ti akroasei tou Petron o opois isos kai na tous "etragoudouse" opos schedon kai tha"epsalle", dikaioma tous == i Tourkiki mousiki, ekthylikismeni opos einai, eina ena BASTARDEMA psaltikis mas kai dimotikis, OPOS akribos tin ekamne o KARAS.
=======
Echo akousei ARKETA charismatikes phones, kai echo ekthesei to problema se arketous eidikous, dia na katalixo oti to MONON koinon stoichion anametaxy dytikis kai psaltikis esti i ANAPNOE.
Otan tha akousei echographiseis SOCHOU kai ASTERIOU OPOS to nyn prosaptomenon archeion, TOTE kai monon tha chreiasthei na ereunisomen ean i techniki tous EUSTATHEI dia ton ecclesiastikon choron.
Dysticho, to monon to opoion echo akousei apo "charismatikous dytiko- topothetimenous" eisin BASTARDEMATA, opos akribos ta BEKRYDISTIKA tou Asteri.
TELEUTAION:
Dia SYNKRISIN phonon IDIAS epochis (1930 - 1940):
as synkrinei tis tin PAROUSAN echographisin tou IAKOVOU
meta echographiseos tinos TRION tragoudiston, enos HELLINOS kai DYO Amerikanon, epochis 1930, en Ameriki, 78 rpm (tous opoious diskous ECHO eis Montreal, kai opou eicha kapote ANARTISEI to "ANASTASEOS hemera" eis to Montreal psaltiki kai to opoion SIGOURA tha echei o Koubaroulis eis ta archeia tou, kai to opoion APHIRESA logou hyperfortoseos tou site, kai tin opoian echographisin DEN echo procheiron) = opou, bebaia, me LYRIKI topothetisin, o nathropos legei ALLA ant'alllon (ito kai teliophitos toy Odeiou Athninon)
oste na katalabei kaneis oti i ECHOLHPSIA tou Iakovou den PARAMORPHONEI TOSON tin phonin tou oso tha ithelee na mas to hypogrammisei o Ioannis.
Georgios
Υ.Γ.: αν πειράζουν τα ελληνικά με λατινικούς χαρακτήρες, θα προσπαθήσω να το γράψω με ελληνικούς
